3 Responses for "Jeff’s Finds – July 14, 2009"

1. COACHEP » Blog Archive » Posts about Obama Health Care Failure as of July 14, 2009 July 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm 1

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2. kb July 14th, 2009 at 7:25 pm 2

   Regarding the health care video:

   Aside from the ridiculous wait times (a year to wait for an appointment), I don’t see how this is any different than here.
   -To wait for several hours in a doctor’s office or ER occurs here in the States, even with private insurance.
   -It is not uncommon for doctors or clinics to be closed on the weekend (especially on a Sunday). The only option at that point is the ER.
   -Waiting lists for hospital procedures based on medical necessity are not uncommon here. Usually its because a transplant is involved, but I doubt other surgeries are free from waiting times.
   -The woman he interviewed talked about them screwing up her mother’s operation. That happens EVERY DAY in the States.
   -You cannot (at most places) request blood tests yourself. You HAVE to get a doctor’s order for lab tests, and they won’t order them without good cause. Some (like cholesterol) are becoming more common and you can get at other places like a pharmacy, but overall, if I wanted to check my blood, I’d have to wait to see a doctor.

   This being said, a move to totally public insurance is not necesarrily the best plan. However, if I am not mistaken, the Obama plan is to add a public OPTION for those who cannot afford private insurance. A lot of employers are cutting their benefits, so more and more Americans cannot afford health care. Trust me, if you had not health care and couldn’t afford the doctor’s bills, you’d willingly deal with the stuff this guy shows.

   In the end, America should take notice, find a way to run a public health care more efficiently, and listen to doctors about how to keep them practicing medicine. Because if we keep the same number of doctors, I don’t see why we’d need such long waits at the doctors (since we’d only be adding about 10-20% more patients – the current amount of Americans not covered by health insurance).

3. Jeff VanDrimmelen July 15th, 2009 at 4:39 am 3

   kb, thanks for your comments regarding the health care video. As I watched I did have some of the same thoughts regarding the wait times and quality of the health care system… but I do have to say that the way it is in America is no where as bad as it is depicted here. Granted, this is only one persons view and he obviously has an agenda… but long wait times for us are 1-3 hours… not 9!! And when there is a need for a surgery they don’t put it off for a year… they do it within weeks at most, if not days and hours.

   For those that didn’t watch the full video (I understand… it is long), there are stories of folks waiting up to 9 hours to see someone on the weekend at the ER.. I have never seen that. There is also a story of a woman who didn’t get a surgery she needed on her leg till well over a year because she was waiting. It took so long that instead of having to just operate one leg, the ended up AMPUTATING both legs because the infection had spread so much. wow… scary.

   I like the idea of helping those out without healthcare, but I am just afraid it is going to turn into the fiasco and forms mess I have to go through every time I want to renew my drivers license, or apply for a federal grant, or apply for Medicaid. It is a mess. The government is always bad at implementing these types of things… I wish there were a better way…